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underworld men
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2006, 08:33:23 PM »

Ok, this is possibly the worst book I have read, did anyone actually like it. It was so dry, so empty. I was disapointed.
well, once again: that book is "political".
and Solzsh is quite a dodgy person that promoted the disrespect for the law & order as well as disrespect towards Russia and her achievements.
in fact, he doesn't respect anything and anyone - he shamelessly libeled upon a great russian writer/nobel prize winner Sholokhov.
for the western readers there's lots of "exotic" stuff in such slanderous rubbish as 'one day...' or '... gulag', but i personally know: most of russian people loved Stalin and supported his actions.

I am sorry,what do you mean by 'Solzhenitsyn disregarding Russia?' ???In what way?And why is "One day in the life of Ivan Denisovich" or " Gulag archipelago"  'slanderous rubbish'? ???Have you tried reading his other works like "Matryona's house"?

Solzhenitsyn is a brilliant man. He is just very honest and rather fickle. There is a story that Father Alexander Men talked him into returning to the Orthodox church after Alex and the church had a falling out.

It is spoken of in orthodoxy to never speak poorly of your brother. It is a sign of vanity.

Now people outside the church, well they are NOT fair game but one has allot more room to be critical.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2006, 01:12:54 PM »

Oh, he's still alive...

ahem, does anybody happen to have the phonenumber of Solzenitsyn? .. or any other contact data?
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2006, 07:07:38 AM »

Oh, he's still alive...

ahem, does anybody happen to have the phonenumber of Solzenitsyn? .. or any other contact data?

Crazy foxy your just crazy...
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2006, 09:58:14 AM »

Well,don't know about any contact data.I know for sure that every year Solzhenitsyn gives his own award to a book he likes.I know that a few years ago he made an exception and gave the prize to the new movie "The Idiot"
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2006, 04:44:58 PM »

If he lives in Moscow ... wouldn't he be in your phonebook then, Lerik?

Trying to achieve something is something for crazy people in these times.
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2006, 10:02:03 AM »

If he lives in Moscow ... wouldn't he be in your phonebook then, Lerik?

Trying to achieve something is something for crazy people in these times.

Lol,do you think every Solzhenitsyn fan has his phone number?
And Solzhenitsyn lives outside Moscow anyway
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2006, 07:38:58 PM »

Well, he is a writer, but he's still a normal person like everynbody else, so ...

Does he live in St Petersburg then, or rather in the countryside?..
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2006, 08:40:08 PM »

Your post, Foxhead, reminds me of the exhange in "The Master and Margarita":

`Dostoevsky's  dead,'  said  the  citizeness,  but  somehow not   very confidently.
'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!'


I, too, protest!  Solzhenitsyn is not 'normal'!
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2006, 08:59:45 PM »

Your post, Foxhead, reminds me of the exhange in "The Master and Margarita":
`Dostoevsky's  dead,'  said  the  citizeness,  but  somehow not   very confidently.
'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!'
I, too, protest!  Solzhenitsyn is not 'normal'!

NORMAL SCOUNDREL HE IS!
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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2006, 04:01:13 PM »

Your post, Foxhead, reminds me of the exhange in "The Master and Margarita":

`Dostoevsky's  dead,'  said  the  citizeness,  but  somehow not   very confidently.
'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!'




I, too, protest!  Solzhenitsyn is not 'normal'!

Cool quote!
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2006, 06:12:28 PM »

Your post, Foxhead, reminds me of the exhange in "The Master and Margarita":

`Dostoevsky's  dead,'  said  the  citizeness,  but  somehow not   very confidently.
'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!'




I, too, protest!  Solzhenitsyn is not 'normal'!

Cool quote!


Thanks.  I agree.  I loved that line when I first came across it.  I love that whole passage.  Well, why not... here it is:

     A pale and bored citizeness in white socks and a white beret with a nib sat on a Viennese chair at  the corner entrance to the veranda, where amid the greenery of the trellis an opening for the entrance had been made. In front of her on a simple kitchen table lay a fat book of the ledger variety, in which the citizeness, for  unknown reasons, wrote down all those who entered  the restaurant.  It  was precisely this citizeness who stopped Koroviev and Behemoth.
     'Your identification cards?' She was gazing in  amazement at Koroviev's pince-nez, and also at Behemoth's primus and Behemoth's torn elbow.
     `A thousand pardons, but what identification cards?' asked Koroviev in surprise.
     'You're writers?' the citizeness asked in her turn.
     'Unquestionably,' Koroviev answered with dignity.
     "Your identification cards?' the citizeness repeated.
     'My sweetie ...' Koroviev began tenderly.
     'I'm no sweetie,' interrupted the citizeness.
     'More's the pity,' Koroviev said disappointedly and went on; 'Well, so, if you don't want to be a sweetie, which would  be quite pleasant, you don't have to be. So, then, to convince yourself that Dostoevsky was  a writer, do you have to ask for his identification card? Just take any five pages from any one of his  novels and you'll be  convinced, without any identification card, that you're dealing with a writer. And I don't think he even had any identification card! What do you think? 'Koroviev turned to Behemoth.
     'I'll bet he didn't,' replied Behemoth, setting the primus down on the table beside the ledger and wiping the sweat from his sooty forehead with his hand.
     'You're not Dostoevsky,' said the citizeness,who was getting muddled by Koroviev.
     'Well, who knows, who knows,' he replied.
     `Dostoevsky's dead,' said the citizeness, but somehow not very confidently.
     'I protest!' Behemoth exclaimed hotly. 'Dostoevsky is immortal!'
     'Your identification cards, citizens,' said the citizeness.
     'Good gracious, this is getting to be ridiculous!' Koroviev would not give in. 'A writer is defined not by any identity card, but by what he writes.  How do you know  what plots are swarming in my head? Or in this
head?'  and he pointed at Behemoth's head, from which the latter at once removed the cap, as if to let the citizeness examine it better.
     'Step aside, citizens,' she said, nervously now.
     Koroviev and Behemoth stepped aside and let pass some writer in a grey suit with a tie-less, summer white shirt, the collar of which lay wide open on the lapels of his jacket, and with a newspaper under his arm.  The writer nodded affably to the citizeness, in passing put  some nourish in the proffered ledger, and proceeded to the veranda.
     'Alas, not to us, not to us,' Koroviev began sadly, 'but to him will go that ice-cold mug of beer, which you and I, poor wanderers, so dreamed of together.  Our position  is woeful and difficult, and I don't know what to do.'
     Behemoth only spread  his arms bitterly and put his  cap on his round head, covered with thick hair very much resembling a cat's fur.
     And at that moment a low but peremptory voice sounded over the head of the citizeness:
     'Let them pass, Sofya Pavlovna.'


I can't figure out which part of that passage is best:  the great humor and wit, the beautiful style of Bulgakov, or the biting satire of Soviet society.

(I know, we're now way off topic on this thread, but I couldn't help but post that passage from Bulgakov.  No more straying.)
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2006, 04:37:18 AM »

Still,its hard to get his phone number i think.No,he lives in the Moscow countryside
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