Philosophy is dead.

[underworld men]

Hallelujah!
     

[Radio Saturday]

What prompts this display of good cheer?

[lerik]

Hallelujah!
     

you mean that philosophy is dead in the 21st century or that it doesnt exist at all?I didnt get it

[underworld men]

Hallelujah!
     

you mean that philosophy is dead in the 21st century or that it doesnt exist at all?I didnt get it

http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/hierotheos_difference.aspx

[Radio Saturday]

Ah. I understand what you mean.

But shouldn't we at least raise a glass in memoriam, if just for the good reading western philosophy has given us?

[underworld men]

Ah. I understand what you mean.

But shouldn't we at least raise a glass in memoriam, if just for the good reading western philosophy has given us?

Oh most definitely.
Here, here to a glorious and most gracious bow.

[PointCounterPoint]

Underworld is Orthodox!!!   Russian Orthodox?
I go to Serbian Orthodox, which is obvious since I am in Serbia...hahahahaha

Western philosophy isn't so bad. They did make Kierkegaard, after all!

[underworld men]

Underworld is Orthodox!!!   Russian Orthodox?
I go to Serbian Orthodox, which is obvious since I am in Serbia...hahahahaha

Western philosophy isn't so bad. They did make Kierkegaard, after all!

No way! Welcome Welcome have you gotten to see St Salva yet? Yes Mr Cemetery is quite wonderful as is Kafka. Theotokos Bless You!

[PointCounterPoint]

Of course! Temple of Saint Sava is most beautiful church I ever go to. I live in Belgrade so I've lost count of times I go. I go to Crkva Svetog Marka (Saint Marks Church) though. There are no ugly Orthodox Churches though. If ever you come to Serbia go into one of the churches, the icons are some of the most beautiful  in the world.

[underworld men]

Of course! Temple of Saint Sava is most beautiful church I ever go to. I live in Belgrade so I've lost count of times I go. I go to Crkva Svetog Marka (Saint Marks Church) though. There are no ugly Orthodox Churches though. If ever you come to Serbia go into one of the churches, the icons are some of the most beautiful  in the world.

Speaking of churches and ikons in Serbia is like speaking of painting with Micheangelo. They are inseparable. St Salva is no laughing matter for Orthodox people as you point out, it is critical.

There of course is always the other person we could speak of..


Tesla

As for visiting Belgrade .....in my dreams.

PS You should start an OT thread on our friend Mr Tito. Stalin's own mini-me

[omahaha]

Hallelujah!
     

you mean that philosophy is dead in the 21st century or that it doesnt exist at all?I didnt get it

http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/hierotheos_difference.aspx

I wonder why you would say philosophy is dead on a thread discussing philosophy, besides the fact that others declared dead over the years, God, rock n roll, etc. have come back throwing upper-cuts.

Would you say it was a tremendous waste of time reading all those books by all those philosophers? It must have had some vaule as to not be ready to be buried quite yet.

Anyway, I think that linked article is a poor representation of Western theology. It implies that the Western Christianity via Thomas Aquinas has put reason before God and has therefore led the world to atheism. Where does reason come from if not from God? God has pure reason and absolute knowledge and mankind, since created in his image, also has reason, though we don't always use it very well. The Western Church does not say that God is only reason.

Furthermore, the author asserts that Protestantism is merely knowing God through hearing about him. That is a reduction at best. Protestant religions value the "power of prayer."

As far as philosophy goes, there are certainly bad philosophers and philosophies, but as the saying goes, that's why good philosophy exists.

[underworld men]

Hallelujah!
     

you mean that philosophy is dead in the 21st century or that it doesnt exist at all?I didnt get it

http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/hierotheos_difference.aspx

I wonder why you would say philosophy is dead on a thread discussing philosophy, besides the fact that others declared dead over the years, God, rock n roll, etc. have come back throwing upper-cuts.

Would you say it was a tremendous waste of time reading all those books by all those philosophers? It must have had some vaule as to not be ready to be buried quite yet.

Anyway, I think that linked article is a poor representation of Western theology. It implies that the Western Christianity via Thomas Aquinas has put reason before God and has therefore led the world to atheism. Where does reason come from if not from God? God has pure reason and absolute knowledge and mankind, since created in his image, also has reason, though we don't always use it very well. The Western Church does not say that God is only reason.

Furthermore, the author asserts that Protestantism is merely knowing God through hearing about him. That is a reduction at best. Protestant religions value the "power of prayer."

As far as philosophy goes, there are certainly bad philosophers and philosophies, but as the saying goes, that's why good philosophy exists.

haha
Or post on a forum about an author who's dead, right?
As for the rest, so we disagree?
So..

[Childe Harold]

"Where does reason come from if not from God? God has pure reason and absolute knowledge and mankind, since created in his image, also has reason, though we don't always use it very well. "

God is most certainly not the origin of reason omahaha. This is asburd. Reason says that there is no God and you are fool for believing in one. Reason is the antitheses of God or any other concept based on revelation. Indeed this is why it is and has always been reason vs. revelation, not revelation/reason. Any form of Belief is in fact the epitome of unreason. Philosophy is not dead, but theology certainly is. Each exists at the expense of the other. I don't mean to offend you, but if you're going to espouse religion, at least have the courage to call it irrational.

UW yearns for philosophy to be dead, since then he wouldn't have to work so hard at eleborate defenses of his immortality, of his celestial supervision.

P.S. I know you won't ever agree with me. My satisfaction is only that I deny you the comfort of consensus.

Carry on...

[omahaha]

"Where does reason come from if not from God? God has pure reason and absolute knowledge and mankind, since created in his image, also has reason, though we don't always use it very well. "

God is most certainly not the origin of reason omahaha. This is asburd. Reason says that there is no God and you are fool for believing in one. Reason is the antitheses of God or any other concept based on revelation. Indeed this is why it is and has always been reason vs. revelation, not revelation/reason. Any form of Belief is in fact the epitome of unreason. Philosophy is not dead, but theology certainly is. Each exists at the expense of the other. I don't mean to offend you, but if you're going to espouse religion, at least have the courage to call it irrational.

UW yearns for philosophy to be dead, since then he wouldn't have to work so hard at eleborate defenses of his immortality, of his celestial supervision.

P.S. I know you won't ever agree with me. My satisfaction is only that I deny you the comfort of consensus.

Carry on...

I have to say Man Childe, or whatever your name will be tomorrow, at least you are not lukewarm. You're devout in your beliefs.

I was responding to the link to an article about Eastern Orthodox Christianity compared to Catholicism and Protestantism, which is all rat poison to you, I suppose.

I disagree with you that reason and religion are mutually exclusive. To believe so is overly chauvinistic, in my humble, foolish opinion.



 

[Radio Saturday]

Any form of Belief is in fact the epitome of unreason.

But wouldn't that seem to lead to the idea that the world doesn't exist? Since even the theory of evolution requires some belief, doesn't it seem to follow that the world is not here since the facts of its beginning require belief?

Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way.