Philosophy is dead.

[axon]

ok kids, lets stay ontopic and stop being mean to eachother or it's time out for both of you.

In other words: straighten out your act or this thread is closed.


BTW -I'm back

[underworld men]

ok kids, lets stay ontopic and stop being mean to eachother or it's time out for both of you.

In other words: straighten out your act or this thread is closed.


BTW -I'm back

Groovey. I'm taken a break.

You can play footizy with the pomp and stupidty.

[Astolfo]

    I was starting to worry. I mean, if the moderator is an extremist, it is quite difficult to discuss anything at all, let alone Dostoevsky.

    And, as I have already pointed out, it is almost impossible to have a conversation with someone who doesn't speak one's language, yet insists in using it to insult you. Since you seem to know the U Man, Axon, could you please explain to me his schizoid syntax and opaque expressiones -for instance, what does "play footizy" mean, or what is this obsession he seems to have with this "dirty pool" of his?

   I mean, I can grasp what "pomp and stupidity" means to him: it means me (atta boy, moderator!). But half of what he writes doesn't make any sense at all.

    Resented Serbian Ultraortodox pedants are easy to confront (and defeat), as recent historical developments have shown us all, but you have to admit that having a literary discussion with an illiterate individual does  have its technical limitations.

   Could you enlighten me please, while the U Man takes a "groovey" break from insulting me and demanding me to give him back the Shroud of Turin? After all, you are the Administrator, right?

    Thanks in advance.

[Childe Harold]

Hey I think by pomp and stupidity he means me too! Or once did rather, though I'm sure to pick up the charge at our next meeting. Schizo indeed. Well pointed out astolfo.

[underworld men]

As moderator and axon as an administrator.

I can say that I support axon.

I can say beyond a doubt that I am not Serbian.

I can say that Childe Harold's endorsing mass execution of religious people and Astolfo's endorsement of the Roman Catholic mass murder and theft is beyond acceptable. You two seem not only ignorant of the past  but two arrogant trolls made for each other (don't act like one and you won't be called one). As for Dostoevsky, he was a Russian Orthodox Christian who by your ad hom verbal abuse name calling inability to deal with the ugly truths of the past, is now an extremist. You have no truth in your statements only insult, denial.

Dostoevsky is known to be anti-roman catholic and anti-atheism/nihilism.

Either address this constructively with facts and evidence or don't bother. Name calling people boys or stating you want them shot (or any other derogatory tactic) or nit picky dodging or whatever playground tactics you used in past leave them behind.

You both are hateful, arrogant and ignorant. All of which you wish to project on other people. This is a website and forum dedicated to Dostoevsky-not you. I am a Russian Orthodox Christian I agree with Dostoevsky. If you don't state your case what do you expect? Stop whinnying, if you are not satisfied MOVE ON. Stop with the verbal abuse, stop with denying your share. I am doing nothing but restating (as I have repeatedly showed) Dostoevsky's stance and the Orthodox church's.

If you can't be constructive and abstain from telling people you want to shot them or calling them ethnic extremists, spare us the trash ignorance and don't bother responding.

There are other slavs on here, other then me I can guarantee you have insulted. With your emotional outbursts of denial and ignorants.

Either stop take inventory and be constructive or leave.

Address the points being discussed (abstain from being disruptive) or leave.

Its that simple.

And I can as a Greek/Russian Orthodox Christian say

Philosophy is dead.

[nektarios]

Hello bro,

 I think you are mistaken by telling that philosophy is dead.Even if i can understand you are point of view,which i do agree that positivists,didnt say something usefull for the salvation of being,i disagree with the generalization you did.Because etymollogiacally,the strict meaning of the word philosophos,is that one who is a lover of wisdom,we can also call a saint that he is a real philosopher,because he is experiencing,this divine relationship with wisdom.Also many saints telling that we have to living philosophically.Actuall the real meaning of philosophy has nothing to do with books,and intelleceuall analysis.It is only the experience of our primordial state.

[underworld men]

Hello bro,

 I think you are mistaken by telling that philosophy is dead.Even if i can understand you are point of view,which i do agree that positivists,didnt say something usefull for the salvation of being,i disagree with the generalization you did.Because etymollogiacally,the strict meaning of the word philosophos,is that one who is a lover of wisdom,we can also call a saint that he is a real philosopher,because he is experiencing,this divine relationship with wisdom.Also many saints telling that we have to living philosophically.Actuall the real meaning of philosophy has nothing to do with books,and intelleceuall analysis.It is only the experience of our primordial state.

Christ is Born.
I understand my brother, I love you, Theotokos Bless you, change is driven by the passing of things. The church fathers speak of Hellenic paganism as philosophy and the heresies as the mutations of men trying to fuse the Hellenic mind with the Christian mind. This is what is being said. You are right from your perspective, please forgive me a sinner most wretched, if I have spoken out of turn. It is stated that Christianity is a faith. That faith is meta-logic, meta-rational AKA meta-philosophy.

God Bless you always.
UM.

[nektarios]

It is a fact that greek fathers said that,and is true.But i think the way they said it,cause many problems to Greek culture,they polarized Greek people,to Hellenistics,and Orthodox Christians,and i think you are informed that Christian orthodox,killed many Greeks,who were still following the principles,of ancient greek philosophy,and they also destroy many ancient greek monuments.So even if they were right in their statements,they shouldnt said it in the way they did.But of course,there are some great saints,that they integrate perfectly,the Ancient Greek philosophy,with the experience of Orthodoxy,like Saint Maximos,or Vasileios the great,and ,many others.

I recomend you a contemporary greek profesor,of philosopher,who is still alive,Christos Giannaras,he is integrating perfectly,Witgenstein and Heideger,with the experience of orthodoxy.Check for his english translations in Amazon.

[underworld men]

It is a fact that greek fathers said that,and is true.But i think the way they said it,cause many problems to Greek culture,they polarized Greek people,to Hellenistics,and Orthodox Christians,and i think you are informed that Christian orthodox,killed many Greeks,who were still following the principles,of ancient greek philosophy,and they also destroy many ancient greek monuments.So even if they were right in their statements,they shouldnt said it in the way they did.But of course,there are some great saints,that they integrate perfectly,the Ancient Greek philosophy,with the experience of Orthodoxy,like Saint Maximos,or Vasileios the great,and ,many others.

I recomend you a contemporary greek profesor,of philosopher,who is still alive,Christos Giannaras,he is integrating perfectly,Witgenstein and Heideger,with the experience of orthodoxy.Check for his english translations in Amazon.

Most excellent.