I am God!

[RomanRussia]

 Every one who wants the supreme freedom must dare to kill himself. He who dares to kill himself has found out the secret of the deception. There is no freedom beyond; that is all, and there is nothing beyond. He who dares kill himself is God. Now every one can do so that there shall be no God and shall be nothing. But no one has once done it yet.”
 
“There have been millions of suicides.”
 
“But always not for that; always with terror and not for that object. Not to kill fear. He who kills himself only to kill fear will become a god at once.”

 The possessed by Fyodor Dostoevsky
 

[doubletrouble]

Could you tell me where this quote was taken from - What chapter is it from?
Thanks.

[RomanRussia]

 Part 1, chapter 3, VIII
 

[carnage_complex]

Dostoevsky considered Kirillov the Antichrist; he died to prove the integrity of death, Christ died to prove the integrity of life.  His was the precipice of rationalism, what he had was the perfect ivory tower to jump from.

[RomanRussia]

Dostoevsky considered Kirillov the Antichrist; he died to prove the integrity of death, Christ died to prove the integrity of life.  His was the precipice of rationalism, what he had was the perfect ivory tower to jump from.

 He  died? Did he died as the modern internet says))) He commited suicide isn't it more correct or?

[carnage_complex]

 He  died? Did he died as the modern internet says))) He commited suicide isn't it more correct or?

    Semantics.  Yes, he killed himself.  Suicide tends to be conceptualized more as the outcome of a 'disease' more often than not, though it's definitely not interchangeable with 'depression.'  Frankly, I always wanted to learn more about Kirillov, Dostoevsky never tells us that much about his background...we do know that, at one time, he went to America with Shatov and was disenchanted with the experience.  What he really seemed to want was a 'new world,' which he sought first through physical travel and then through the clandestine ardors of a cursory involvement with the 'revolutionaries...' or, the whims of Pyotr Verkhovensky, however you choose to see it.  For me, one of the most poignant moments of the book was when Shatov asked him if he had ever been 'happy.' 

[RomanRussia]

 He  died? Did he died as the modern internet says))) He commited suicide isn't it more correct or?

    Semantics.  Yes, he killed himself.  Suicide tends to be conceptualized more as the outcome of a 'disease' more often than not, though it's definitely not interchangeable with 'depression.'  Frankly, I always wanted to learn more about Kirillov, Dostoevsky never tells us that much about his background...we do know that, at one time, he went to America with Shatov and was disenchanted with the experience.  What he really seemed to want was a 'new world,' which he sought first through physical travel and then through the clandestine ardors of a cursory involvement with the 'revolutionaries...' or, the whims of Pyotr Verkhovensky, however you choose to see it.  For me, one of the most poignant moments of the book was when Shatov asked him if he had ever been 'happy.' 

 Suicide is an instant killing/terminating your life. Smokers may do kill themselves much slower but they still kill themselves.

 Carnage Complex I love your posts and the language of yours. You are 50 - 60 years old?

[carnage_complex]

Suicide is an instant killing/terminating your life. Smokers may do kill themselves much slower but they still kill themselves.

 Carnage Complex I love your posts and the language of yours. You are 50 - 60 years old?

Ah, yes, wonderful!  I've been telling people the same thing for years pertaining to junk food...about how indulging in such things is a form of protracted suicide.  That is why I spend so much time on Dostoevsky forums...not really, though, FD's cooler than they are .  I see him as the closest thing to a prophet that the world has produced in centuries...Joseph Frank's inclusion of Pushkin's "The Prophet" in his abridged bio of the master was very befitting.

Carnage Complex I love your posts and the language of yours. You are 50 - 60 years old?

I'm 22.  Then again, I'm a literature aficionado, not a numbers person...so maybe I just can't count and you're right.